![]() If you're hanging anything of significant weight (over 10 pounds), reinforce it with a section of 2 x 4 to spread out the weight along the stud and keep the metal from twisting. This is also a good way to find metal studs, used in many apartment and commercial buildings and not easily located by a stud finder. It will stick where a screw or nail is driven. Run a powerful rare-earth magnet along the wall. The noise should go from hollow to solid when you get to the stud. Use the back of your knuckle and rap horizontally along the wall at 1-inch intervals. These devices detect either the edge of the stud or its center. If you're working with drywall, you have a few more options: While most drywall is 3/8 or 1/2 inch thick-and thus works with 1 1/4-inch screws for light loads-plaster can range from 3/4 inch to 1 1/4 inches thick, so you may need screws up to 2 1/2 inches long. Expect your bit to take a beating from the harder material. You need to drill through the plaster and into the wood framing. Most wall framings set studs every 16 inches, so you should be okay to measure from there, but double-check with a pilot hole. Take off the switch plate and you can see which side of the stud the box is mounted on by spotting the screws. (The box holding its wiring needs to be attached to something sturdy.) Most are mounted inside the first stud by the door frame. ![]() One way to cheat is to look for a light switch. If you're working with plaster, this can be tough, since the fasteners used to attach the lath will throw off a stud finder. Whether you're hanging a kitchen cabinet or a coat hook, your best option is to attach things to a stud. You can feel the difference, but if you're still not sure, a pushpin will go into drywall. Most houses will have drywall, but many built before 1950 used lath and plaster, which is harder than drywall, brittle, and much thicker. ![]() All Rights Reserved.Step 1: Determine your surface. I am interested in what spring toggle fixings are Sphinx_Svens? I am certainly learning lots doing all this DIY!! Many thanks again for all your responses!! Jackie This lath and plaster is really horrible stuff - the extra long screws I used were about 6" long and went straight into the brickwork (used a long masony drill bit first then put in an expanding rawl plug) so they are now completely rigid. However, I have done exactly as you've suggested and it's certainly done the job - the fixings are not going anywhere! I think with this being an outside wall, this situation is unusual and I hope I will not have this problem with the rest of the walls!! I would have put up a baton as a last resort but luckly didn't have to this time I don't think they're ugly but they don't look great even when painted. I filled my previous holes and sanded them down and repainted! To bookermel unfortunately the stud timber has disappeared due to the age of the property and I can assure you it is definately lath and plaster straight over brickwork!! Hence my previous problems. ![]() Ok everybody thanks for taking the time to respond. If you are having problems finding two strong fixings you could fix a batten of timber accross the whole lenght remembering to make each fixing into the brick using rawlplugs and then fix your curtian rail to this using wood screws. you may need to buy a longer screw then has been provided to allow for the dept of the plaster in and older property. The hole for the rawl plug should be slightly deeper then the lenght of the rawlplug to allow the screw to go right through the rawlplug to ensure proper grip into the brick. To fix firmly drill a hole with a masonary bit (5.5mm approx) and insert a rawl plug making sure that the rawl plug is into the brick not just the plaster!. If it is an outside wall it is unlikly to be lath and plaster rather hair and lime plaster straight onto the brick. If I have understood your post you say ther is brick behind the plaster that you are fixing to if that is the case you need to fix into the brick not the plaster. It is almost impossible to fix successfully to lath and plaster you have to locate the upright ( stud) timber and fix into that. ![]()
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